@tastytea Even if they do not want to kill, torture, and/or oppress you or me or anyone, they still seem to fancy some kind of centralized and/or authoritarian socialism, which boils down to the same thing, at least the oppression part.
Not to disagree with you, but doesn't every group symbol mean that to outsiders of the group members in some way? Like every government is just the accepted (sometimes by the masses) Mafia running things in a given area. Anybody else trying to run a similar game in the same area is a terrorist Mafia of dissidents.
@WNYmathGuy Yes. But more than most governments, the RSFSR and USSR stood for mass murder and slavery of dissidents from the beginning until the end.
I don't want to defend nation states, but most of them did not slaughter and enslave millions of their inhabitants because they had an other opinion.
If someone today uses a flag of a country, it is either because they want to indicate where they are geographically, because they want to indicate what language they speak, because they want to support a sports team or because they are nationalists and want to exclude others.
☭ Doesn't stand for an existing country, language or sports team. It stands for an ideology that is based on opression.
@tastytea That's an interesting take, because that symbol is purely a positive one, in my own subjective opinion. If I see someone with a sickle-and-hammer shirt, I assume they're a like-minded, good person who shares some subtype of my own socialist politics.
@2HourWorkday The symbol was invented for the bolsheviks, who murdered and tortured countless anarchists and others who opposed them. It was then used by many other "communist" partys, most of them were not better than the bolsheviks. I can see no positivity in that symbol.
@tastytea Ideally I'd like something that won't alienate non-anarchist socialists, because we need the largest united front we can possibly muster to help one another, and cannot give in to sectarian infighting.
Can you think of another symbol like that?
@2HourWorkday Well, the red flag was historically used by all kinds of socialists, but a lot of dictators and "social" "democrats" have used it / are using it too. :-(
I don't really miss an unifying symbol though. We are different. Sometimes we work together, and if we need a symbol for that, we create one, like .