@sazius Enjoyed the write-up. And still felt like adding a smiling "good for you", because I just heard that "simplifying my digital life" a few days ago from a coworker of mine when he ditched most of the tools he was currently using on his smartphone and laptop and went all-Google for virtually *everything* they offer from mail to photos. More integration, way less things to waste time and energy on (unless your data doesn't matter much to you...). 😉
@z428 Yes, that's a good point. That's probably what most people mean by simplifying things... For me it wasn't an option, which is why is was self-hosting a lot of things before.
@sazius Well yeah I've also been sort of "socialized" to self-hosting certain services, and in some ways I still do. However I am getting sceptical in some aspects here, mostly caused by the fact that, at the very end, I don't host *everything* myself (usually do have some dedicated server, at best, managed by a provider in some compute center). This kind of "self-hosting" at times starts to even feel dangerous, but completely housing infrastructure and operating network uplink is something ...
@sazius ... I manage to do in an economically feasible way so I feel making use of other services feels much akin to buying products I don't want to build myself in other aspects of life (cars, bicycles, ...). How much of your infrastructure were you hosting yourself? Bare metal? Internet connectivity? Backup? Just curious. :)
@z428 Yes, and in general we need to build solutions that are usable for all, not just those that have the technical skills to host it themselves.
@z428 Regarding infrastructure, it varied. I had a virtual server at gandi, but also hosted some things on my own machine out of my living room. I never hosted my email, though :-) Just web server, Nextcloud, pump.io/StatusNet and such.
@sazius Ah ok. I wonder whether self hosted for the masses would require something such as a Raspberry Pi, generally small, inexpensive and robust devices offering services out of the box. Or the other way round: Cooperative host sharing, large scale on par with AWS... ;)
@z428 I guess that's basically what the Freedombox project wanted (or still wants) to do. Although, your second option - some kind of cooperative host sharing might be more realistic short-term. But how to make sure it doesn't become too centralised, and another control point?