incomplete list of times violent* political movements were good and successful:
-Haitian slave revolt
-Jamacian slave revolt
-Stonewall (catalyst for modern LGBT movement)
-American Civil Rights Movement (esp. Black Panthers)
(*all politics are violent, it's just a question of who the violence is directed at; a national border implies the violence required to back it up. I'm just demonstrating here that obvious political violence can be good)
@jacethechicken not sure if I can sign on for the American revolution tbh
@redneck_happy I mean opposing your colonialist monarchy seems good to me. the founding fathers were not universally good by any means -- I'm not trying to put American on a pedestal or anything -- but the Revolution itself was, I'd argue, good.
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@redneck_happy I think calling the historic US gov't fascist is unhelpful -- not cuz I think it was good, but because I think a Capitalist Democracy is perfectly capable of being bad without being fascist. and while the Andrew Jackson era US was certainly evil and racist, I don't think it met all the criteria of fascism -- they didn't have some past they were idolizing and trying to return to like fascists do, for one.
@jacethechicken I didn’t call the historic gov fascist, or I did not intend to. I don’t read what I said as saying that but I could’ve explained myself better probably.